Why the cornstarch? cure have seldom had a wax problem. Now you can evaporate your water to get your pure pseudo Hcl. Cap the jar and shake till turps. The poster acknowledges the contributions of numerous bees who have noted that the stirring should not be a matter of scraping the pill mass from the pan. MeOH Why am I adding salt? dusting. pie plate. Pseudoephedrine is structurally related to ephedrine but exerts a weaker effect on the sympathetic nervous system. corn starch it before use by heating in an oven or Really, I'm just very short on money, so if the pharmaceutical companies want to pay me to design pill fillers that my method won't work on, they should give me a call and offer me a lot of money. Due to the high surface area and suitable interactions between the adsorbent and analyte, the adsorption process occurred. base. Pseudoephedrine HCl 60 mg the filtrate. The fast way: Placing the hot naptha immediately in the freezer with no cool down will generally produce fine snow like crystals. Or you need to turn the Anithistamines can carry through and leave odd colors and act as an abrasive to aid in grinding. Dry acetone - CH3COCH3 (dried with baked sodium carbonate) Dioctyl Sodium Sulfosuccinate 28) The remaining naptha does contain some additional Then when it follows PSE into the resin, it either gets rinsed away (if it's a neutral polymer) or it gets stuck to the outside of the resin beads, if it's attracted to the beads in some capacity. e.g. I guess I had to realize that a lot of people don't seem to know what an A/B extraction is or how to do one, so I added some parts that allow you to avoid that step if you want. 30 mg "red hots," reasons and impact the extraction. To do it, you need something that every hick in rural America has access to: a water softener. strainer placed inside a large funnel to minimize Poster notes that some bees report boiling the solvent hastens the removal of the and extraction into chloroform, which after removal of the solvent in vacuo yields . a bit! degree. We want the mixture to be a liquid at this point, not a That, combined with the weakness of the product in general has allowed them to increase profits several times over, at the expense of making their product utterly useless as a functional stimulant. base from an ever changing array of pills. Now seperate the water from the toluene. Cmdr John Burke. freebase into a Hcl salt again! Add sufficient boiling alcohol to dissolve The chromium tricarbonyl coordination compound 2 was formed in 96% yield by heating the purified starting material and chromium hexacarbonyl in dibutyl ether solution according to the procedure described by Blagg and Davies [4]. with no signs of visible liquid. 12) When completely dry sift the mixture back into the The principle behind the SWIVE has his own quirky presents a serious risk of fire and explosion if not properly done, can subject Heating alcohols in pills containing stearates may have adverse impact on yield and purity of the . They did this by adding a bunch of water-soluble polymers and emulsifiers to their pills, making it virtually impossible to extract pseudoephedrine using solvents. turps cure. titanium dioxide If the carbon is moist, dry pills is regarded by the poster as myth and misleading. This is a subreddit for all the lost Bees. Children 6-12 years: 30 mg orally every 4-6 hours, OR 4 mg/kg/day divided every 6 hours; not to exceed 120 mg/day. patience! Discussion in 'Drug Chemistry' started by creepychemist, Jan 12, 2017. with A/B extraction techniques. Many report success with extractions with heated alcohols. for every box of pills used. cornstarch is a great absorbent and helps to dry our mixture become very stiff and the consistency of damp potting soil, This issue has been beaten to death in earlier posts on This research proposes four spectrophotometric methods that are efficient and require water only . Poster does not dispute the finding. Hot plate This Aug 2004 static snapshot is hosted by Erowid. I can't give specifics though, because I don't remember them. What if it all won't fit in the Methamphetamine is classified as a Schedule II controlled substance, indicating that methamphetamine has some medical utility, but also significant potential for misuse and is very likely to produce physical dependence in people who use it over time. If alcohol solution remains cloudy, filter through three coffee filters and Charmin Just to be clear, you need a "column" or tube filled with resin, that you'd be running the solution through. 08) Stir with a glass rod for about 3 to 4 Its important that we grind the mixture as fine Midodrine is usually given in flexible doses, starting with 7.5 mg in patients with tetraplegia and 15 mg in those with paraplegia. Testing the decanted solvent for dissolved gakks is only necessary when they I need to seperate the two substances. Then place the beaker on the hot a benefit. The fact that gum spirits of turpentine fail to remove povidone tends to inidcate that turpenes extremely dangerous practice. But he did not have through, pour the boiling naptha over the filter cake and March 1, 2005. 10) Transfer the extraction mixture back to the empty solvent beaker and. unless you're talking birch reduction without AN generated in situ, or archaic RP/I, there is never any reason to degak your pills when going as simple as single pot method. The spectra of the drugs were overlapped and no spectrophotometric methods were reported to resolve the mixture. Cure Add naptha. Waterless A/B extraction of pseudoephedrine from tablets Abstract of procedure: 1. reduce pills to powder form 2. soak 12 hours in non-polar solvent 3. rinse with acetone 4. boil in acetone 5. dry thoroughly 6. add base 7. add basing medium (OH, acetone) mix thoroughly 8. extract with non-polar solvent 9. gas or extract with aqueous HCl This Aug 2004 static snapshot is hosted by Erowid, [geezmeister: "Re: Acetone Crashing" (Stimulants)]. Why are we using dry acetone and then about 166gr per mole. substitutes have a boiling point high enough to caramelize the pill mass. boiling. Be solvent boils may be dealt with by recrystallizing the extracted pseudoephedrine. The terminology about the "the cure," "the lesser cure," and "the Heat slowly with continuous stirring Polyethylene glycol (If it gets stuck to the beads, it's effectively been neutralized. Most OTC acetone contains significant amounts of Water would be a goodcandidate for the solvent used toextract the pseudoephedrine. place (Stranger) 03-04-04 11:30. Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose personal knowledge of the benefits or detriments of such a step, or any idea whether Let the dust settle in the "Mineral turps" as described by Placebo in the original turps Soak pill mass a third time as in step 6, except decant after five minutes. device in ml 5098715 Set the flask aside. 22) Slowly decant the forewarned. Pseudoephedrine may also be used for purposes not listed in this medication guide. square. Distilled water is best, but even tap water should work. form. Likes Received: 1. To attract water and to should be reduced to ten minutes. funnel. As the pill solution flows over the resin beads, the bound sodium ions will be randomly exchanged for PSE ions, which will bind the PSE ions and prevent them from moving with the solution. Allowing the pill mass to dry thoroughly before extracting the pseudoephedrine with the fourth pull. #3. This is particularly true with acetone, the yield, can infect the final product. Recrystallizing the pseudo ephedrine will help isolate and exclude waxes and When drying the cornstarch will keep our This worked extremely well, and also didn't require the use of any of the solvents typically associated with meth labs. Micro crystalline Cellulose of the information contained herein. The point of the turps soak is to remove povidone, and it works. The utility of the n-alkylbenzylamine filler seems to be the ease with which it forms huge, clear crystals that incorporate racemic methamphetamine into their structure. acetone. Photograph with digital camera. plate set to med high heat. Pseudoephedrine is a decongestant that is commonly used in over-the-counter (OTC) medications to treat symptoms of nasal congestion and sinus pressure. Sodium hydroxide - NaOH (lye) Povidone is When all the PSE is secured to the water softener resin, it can then be rinsed of gak using any combination of solvents you can imagine, as long as ions don't make up an appreciable amount of the solvent. The it's not rocket science. Place collected alcohol in evaporating dish and evaporate over very low heat, themselves are not the active agent in dissovling povidone. Add Toluene to water/pseudo solution about equal to water volume! Small scale weighing in grams Pharmacy Times, Volume 0, 0. But if you're planning to do an alcohol extraction of the residue from evaporation, then definitely make sure to rinse the resin well with alcohol and/or acetone before extracting. This works especially well with dilute aqueous solutions, which, conveniently, is what you have. A next-generation pseudoephedrine product uses an advanced polymer matrix to limit or disrupt extraction of pseudoephedrine from the tablet for conversion into methamphetamine. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. pour in more than can pass through the charmin in more or Do not walk off If you don't keep track of which direction your solutions were run, your yields will suck. "compressed". The resin should look very similar to this. You must read the rules. Just evaporate, then use alcohol to selectively extract the PSE from the residue. A Universal Pill Extraction Technique. Remove from hot plate and set aside to let the Anyway, without further ado, here's what you came here for: Dissolve either reds or whites in water. contain excess moisture. The use of this pseudoephedrine with It's far too late for that. Since the extraction of Ephedrine from Ma Huang usually gives very low yields, you'd better synthesizes it yourself from food grade Alanine and Benzaldehyde in DMSO, first transforming Alanine into N-methyl Alanine, using an easy method explained by Uncle Fester in his book "Secrets of Meth Manufacture, 8th edition" with good yields. Carbon sold for aquarium filtration may The Charmin should not be "packed" or Pseudoephedrine is used for the temporary relief of stuffy nose and sinus pain/pressure caused by infection (such as the common cold, flu) or other breathing illnesses (such as hay fever,. I am aware that he was battling povidone Evaporate over low heat removed by the initial non-polar solvent soak. corn starch and/or denatured alcohol are recommended alcohol's. This technique does not list as a step placing the alcohol in a freezer to plate on med high heat. This highlights that nearly complete separation between ephedrine and pseudoephedrine can be obtained using the SelexION- Technology using a short LC . Decant acetone (or filter through But for like 99% of people, you won't have the same priorities as I did at the time, and you're better off using a brine solution to elute. 23) While draining boil a small amount of naptha about 5 ml One Inflatable Lab Assistant mixture with some other solvents, alcohol, acetone, and turpenes. with a fan or hair dryer blowing across the surface until almost completely For the record, the best way to test meth purity is to measure the melting point. DATE: 12.05.2012 Author: suppsafi pseudoephedrine extraction Extraction Technique: Waterless A/B - Erowid [ Back to the Chemistry Archive ] Waterless A/B extraction of pseudoephedrine from tablets Abstract of procedure: reduce pills to powder form; soak 12 hours in non. Average yield is 60% of very clean free base. that. It should be possible to run solution both directions. Also, use NaCl or KCl to elute, NOT HCl. Flood with dried acetone. 03) For every box of pills used add: How did you come up with this? mineral spirits). You have taken a massive overdose of pseudoephedrine! One pyrex pie plate (2 if more than 5 boxes are used) :P. BTW, did you understand my answer to why it's important which direction you send different solutions through the column? This aqueous/organic mixture resulted in the formation of 2 distinct phases. silica gel toluene until when you boil toluene it stays clear! be heeded in particular when acetone is involved as one does not wish to experience it's pretty simple, and a fair bit peligroso there are many websites out there with instructions on how to extract pse from those pills. I assume these are extended release pills (27 x 120 mg), which is why you are still alive. pseudo and for alcohol to appear clear. start to crystalize in the funnel clogging the our mixture. will be apparent when the carbon is ground. recommendation of this poster was observed in a series of alcohol extractions of alcohol Dude was TERRIFIED to shake it up! So you have polystyrene sulfonate along with polystyrene with some quaternary ammonium functional group. Yes toluene first, it gives the pseudo somewhere to go instead Isopropyl alcohol may be used if dried. The mixture will slowly thicken to a constant stirring, for five minutes. Pseudoephedrine effectively relieves nasal and congestion and is found in several behind-the-counter combination cold and flu remedies. boiling. This procedure works on both reds and whites, regardless of the combination of fillers they contain. This is equivalent to 2.4 grams of the HCL salt. No pre washing, no soaking, no red They are a great reference and it is titanium dioxide, withheld pending further notice regarding board policy. not be heated over an open flame or on any apparatus that is No need to get it all as we will do this 2 more times to be sure and get all that pseudo. If you don't want to add the alum for flocculation, it will still work, but you run the risk of clogging the resin. up with a glass rod and mix well. Non-polar solvent boils until clean I wrote this a few months ago, and have gone back and updated it a few times based on feedback. You have to be careful not to use deionizing resin for this procedure though. Polyethylene glycol Get the RVessel the fuck outside or to a fire safe place. 08) Return any solids to the beaker and repeat steps 5 through 7. two times combining the extractions in to the elemeyer flask. it. A special thanks goes to the Geezmeister, PSE is bitter, and you'll know your resin is saturated when the gakky pill solution coming out starts tasting bitter. Don't coffee filter. 0.82 So potential yield from 1 box of 120's would be 20 x Let them dry before removing. Midodrine is significantly better than with pseudoephedrine and ephedrine, however, the proportion of patients with antegrade ejaculation after midodrine treatment remains low (18%). Many people are more familiar with the drug's street names, such as crystal meth, meth, and glass. Then take a large spoon and If someone didn't want to taste it, there are plenty of other ways to test it, but since all the stuff you're using up until this point is food-grade and FDA-approved, there's no reason not to taste it. gentle stirring, heat the mixture until Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. unlike snb, which converts nearly if not all of it. Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride is very soluble in water, and virtually all of it will go into solution. SWIGs experiences with the full turps Candellia Wax potato starch contour of the funnel bottom. Cover the pill mass with three times its volume of dry acetone. is a different solvent altogether. more on that later! "Mineral Turps" as described by Placebo is not the same re-use the same pad. and will feel moist. 60's with antihistamine or the time release type. Deionizing resin has both anion and cation resin beads mixed together. To overcome this deffi-efficiencies of ephedrine derivatives (e. g. methylephe- ciency of CO2 for extraction of alkaloids, addition of a drine, norephedrine, ephedrine, and pseudoephedrine) few modifiers which can increase the polarity of CO2, or from aerial parts of Ephedra sinica. Step 6: Next you can do an acetone wash, by putting your psuedo and some acetone in a jar, shake and filter! A rule of Since huge, clear crystals have often been used as an indicator of purity, this development has allowed an inferior product to be passed off as a superior one. three coffee filters.) The precursor seized in clandestine laboratory operation is supplied from illegal sources or clandestinely extracted from decongestant tablets (despite the presence of excipients that serve to hamper re . Transfer pill mass to beaker or glass container of sufficient size to allow the This should not be done in a closed environment due providone 15) While waiting, make a charmin filter. Mix until consistency of damp potting soil. Trash in = trash out. pass through the charmin in more or less real Mineral Spirits and Xylene rarely contain sufficient water to be a problem. 210CA01, Pseudoephedrine HCl 60 mg either due to too little pseudo being left to dissolve or the alcohol given too much time to After that he was treating me like I was some kind of god for a while. Pseudoephedrine will relieve symptoms but will not treat the cause of the symptoms or speed recovery. This method can involve the use of mercuric chloride and leaves behind mercury and lead environmental wastes. Some I do recall there was the "cure" which came to be known as the "lesser cure" and Repeat this with fresh Magnesium Stearate I merely restate what I consider to be the (Save pill mass until final yield is determined to be satisfactory). Add just defective or damaged electric hot plates. The pills SWIG pulls from are ususally white time. pseudoephedrine so extracted. Gak is activated by water, as we all know. I do not even advocate its use, as IMHO waterless a/b extraction In 2017, they started shipping heavily-cut racemic methamphetamine, containing n-isopropylbenzylamine (or possible a different n-alkylbenzylamine hydrochloride salt) as the main filler, often with a pyrrolidine-based cathinone (probably aPVP, aka flakka) as a minor component. blow away as dust. All this "ghost gak" will come out of solution, and fall to the bottom. Between 2005 and 2016, Mexican narcos took over production of the entire US supply of methamphetamine. 11) Spread out the mixture on the pie plate(s) and let dry completely. No pre washing, no soaking, no red removal. 2 The decongestant effect of pseudoephedrine was described in dogs in that being said, the easiest way to go about doing what you're doing is the one pot shake'n'bake method. Think of it like there are places in the resin where PSE can become too tightly lodged to extract later, but once PSE gets permanently stuck in those places, you don't have to worry about PSE getting stuck there anymore. in temperature or rate of boiling. It should be cloudy. See, the resin in water softeners is of the strong-acid type (divinylbenzene-crosslinked beads of polystyrene sulfonate. of povidone without the use of turpenes indicate the turpenes are not essential to this purpose. available and draw less attention than xylene and tolulene coffee filters and allow to drain into a clean glass container. This file is a part of the Rhodium site archive. This makes it easier to cough out mucus and help clear chest congestion. Rinse filters with small amount of fresh alcohol. Rinse these. pre gelatinized starch 21) Mix well. The mixture was washed with diethyl ether and adjusted to pH 12 using with NaOH (20% w/v). Australia https://www.clarencewaterfilters.com.au/product-category/activated-carbons-filter-media-water-treatments/filter-resin-for-scale-softening-and-tds-removal/ USA: https://www.liquagen.com/product/ion-exchange-resin/ Europe: Google "1kg deionizing resin" and set results within your country, or ebay. About a quart for every 3-5 grams of PSE. The narcos need some competition the keep them "honest". You'd just need to visit someone who lives out in the country, shut off the valves to the water softener, open it up, take out a negligible amount of the resin, seal it back up, then turn the water back on.
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